diff --git a/py/impl/test/collect.py b/py/impl/test/collect.py
index 84a7b768a..e4a38e4be 100644
--- a/py/impl/test/collect.py
+++ b/py/impl/test/collect.py
@@ -19,7 +19,7 @@ class HookProxy:
             raise AttributeError(name)
         hookmethod = getattr(self.node.config.hook, name)
         def call_matching_hooks(**kwargs):
-            plugins = self.node._getplugins()
+            plugins = self.node.config._getmatchingplugins(self.node.fspath)
             return hookmethod.pcall(plugins, **kwargs)
         return call_matching_hooks
 
@@ -43,9 +43,6 @@ class Node(object):
         self.fspath = getattr(parent, 'fspath', None) 
         self.ihook = HookProxy(self)
 
-    def _getplugins(self):
-        return self.config._getmatchingplugins(self.fspath)
-
     def _checkcollectable(self):
         if not hasattr(self, 'fspath'):
             self.parent._memocollect() # to reraise exception
diff --git a/py/impl/test/funcargs.py b/py/impl/test/funcargs.py
index 520615b82..29af77c48 100644
--- a/py/impl/test/funcargs.py
+++ b/py/impl/test/funcargs.py
@@ -15,6 +15,16 @@ def fillfuncargs(function):
     request = FuncargRequest(pyfuncitem=function)
     request._fillfuncargs()
 
+def getplugins(node, withpy=False): # might by any node
+    plugins = node.config._getmatchingplugins(node.fspath)
+    if withpy:
+        mod = node.getparent(py.test.collect.Module)
+        if mod is not None:
+            plugins.append(mod.obj)
+        inst = node.getparent(py.test.collect.Instance)
+        if inst is not None:
+            plugins.append(inst.obj)
+    return plugins
 
 _notexists = object()
 class CallSpec:
@@ -93,7 +103,7 @@ class FuncargRequest:
         self.fspath = pyfuncitem.fspath
         if hasattr(pyfuncitem, '_requestparam'):
             self.param = pyfuncitem._requestparam 
-        self._plugins = pyfuncitem._getplugins(withpy=True)
+        self._plugins = getplugins(pyfuncitem, withpy=True)
         self._funcargs  = self._pyfuncitem.funcargs.copy()
         self._name2factory = {}
         self._currentarg = None
diff --git a/py/impl/test/pycollect.py b/py/impl/test/pycollect.py
index 3802cfaa8..784831144 100644
--- a/py/impl/test/pycollect.py
+++ b/py/impl/test/pycollect.py
@@ -34,15 +34,6 @@ class PyobjMixin(object):
         return property(fget, fset, None, "underlying python object") 
     obj = obj()
 
-    def _getplugins(self, withpy=False):
-        plugins = self.config._getmatchingplugins(self.fspath)
-        if withpy:
-            plugins.append(self.getparent(py.test.collect.Module).obj)
-            inst = self.getparent(py.test.collect.Instance)
-            if inst is not None:
-                plugins.append(inst.obj)
-        return plugins
-
     def _getobj(self):
         return getattr(self.parent.obj, self.name)
 
@@ -147,7 +138,8 @@ class PyCollectorMixin(PyobjMixin, py.test.collect.Collector):
         metafunc = funcargs.Metafunc(funcobj, config=self.config, 
             cls=cls, module=module)
         gentesthook = self.config.hook.pytest_generate_tests
-        gentesthook.pcall(self._getplugins(withpy=True), metafunc=metafunc)
+        plugins = funcargs.getplugins(self, withpy=True)
+        gentesthook.pcall(plugins, metafunc=metafunc)
         if not metafunc._calls:
             return self.Function(name, parent=self)
         return funcargs.FunctionCollector(name=name, 
diff --git a/testing/pytest/test_funcargs.py b/testing/pytest/test_funcargs.py
index a2807166e..4ed1734e7 100644
--- a/testing/pytest/test_funcargs.py
+++ b/testing/pytest/test_funcargs.py
@@ -519,3 +519,26 @@ def test_conftest_funcargs_only_available_in_subdir(testdir):
     result.stdout.fnmatch_lines([
         "*2 passed*"
     ])
+
+def test_funcarg_non_pycollectobj(testdir): # rough jstests usage
+    testdir.makeconftest("""
+        import py
+        def pytest_pycollect_makeitem(collector, name, obj):
+            if name == "MyClass":
+                return MyCollector(name, parent=collector)
+        class MyCollector(py.test.collect.Collector):
+            def reportinfo(self):
+                return self.fspath, 3, "xyz"
+    """)
+    modcol = testdir.getmodulecol("""
+        def pytest_funcarg__arg1(request):
+            return 42
+        class MyClass:
+            pass
+    """)
+    clscol = modcol.collect()[0]
+    clscol.obj = lambda arg1: None
+    clscol.funcargs = {}
+    funcargs.fillfuncargs(clscol)
+    assert clscol.funcargs['arg1'] == 42 
+